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Surely no Black person, for that matter any oppressed person, considers the hanging of nooses a prank. Nor should any white person. Such a thing is never done in jest, but is a threat of an intended action, a threat meant to control behavior or actions. It is a threat of an oppressor to keep the oppressed in line. The racists who hung the nooses were very clear on what they were doing.
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TT says
You always know where it's coming from when they say oppressed person.  As anybody who is nonwhite.  Of course the noose is a very powerful symbol and could be a message to almost anybody.  Go to Wikipedia and it will show you how to make one.  I just made a great looking one and hung on my van.  It draws quite a bit of attention.
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"I do not oppose his speaking; I oppose its sponsorship by Columbia University."—Henry Kissinger, former Secretary of State

Oh, yes. brilliant. Henry fucking kissinger has moral objections to Columbia letting ahmadinejad speak. Of course, b/c as we all know, if there's a paragon of morality to which we all must aspire, it is Henry kissinger. Henry kissinger, a man responsible for the deaths of thousands. I so totally care what Henry kissinger finds ethically questionable. Don't you? This is like Heinrich Himmler objecting to Tom Metzger* appearing at Bob Jones university. And yet, in the cult of political personality, it's all rather par for the course, isn't it?
*Metzger is a "charming" white racist who has been known to utter gems such as, "hitler was too liberal!" and "gas 'em all!"
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Lawmakers want schoolchildren to help recommend a new statue
 of a famous Ohioan to represent the state in the U.S. Capitol's
 National Statuary Hall.

The recommendations will help lawmakers decide who should replace a
 statue of William Allen, a 19th century congressman and Ohio governor who
 portrayed blacks as savages and supported the rights of southern slave
 owners.

Allen is one of two Ohioans in the National Statuary Hall, a large
 semicircular room in the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C., where historic
 figures from each state are honored. Ohio donated Allen's statue to the
 Capitol's collection in 1887, where it joined that of James Garfield,
 the nation's 20th president, who was assassinated in 1881.

"We figured it was probably time to bring Gov. Allen back home to Ohio
 and pick someone who better embodies the spirit of our state for the
 Capitol," said state Rep. Mark Wagoner, R-Toledo.

Possibilities for new statues abound in Ohio's rich history, Wagoner
 said. Olympic gold medal winner Jesse Owens or Toledo's Michael Owens,
 who created a glass bottling empire that employed much of the
 northwestern part of the state in the early 1900s, are just a few examples,
 Wagoner said.

The six-member House-Senate committee has called on the Ohio Historical
 Society and the Department of Education to encourage as many Ohioans
 as possible to weigh in on a suitable statue. Lawmakers hope
 fifth-graders, who have an Ohio history requirement in their curriculum, will be
 particularly active in suggesting famous figures.

The Historical Society is creating a Web site where people can cast a
 vote or nominate a favorite Ohioan from history. The parameters for a
 nomination are wide open. The National Statuary Hall Collection requires
 only that the subject be a deceased U.S. citizen, known for
 "distinguished civic or military service."

The committee hopes to collect names over the next six months and make
 a formal recommendation to the state legislature by March 20, 2008.

Michael Ring, spokesman for the Ohio Historical Society, said he
 expects nominations to range from sharpshooter Annie Oakley to inventor
 Thomas Edison to sports figures such as Branch Rickey, a baseball executive
 who broke the game's color barrier by signing Jackie Robinson.

"Hopefully, there will be a mix of women, men, African Americans,
 pioneers, presidents... people who make history come alive for Ohioans,"
 Ring said.
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MOUNT CLEMENS -- The man who fatally shot a 7-Eleven clerk during an
 argument over the price of a convenience store taco was sentenced today
 by Macomb Circuit Court Judge Mary Chrzanowski to spend the rest of his
 life in prison.

A jury found Kenyatta Davis of Shelby Township guilty last month on
 first-degree murder and felony firearm charges for the murder in the Aug.
 24, 2006, shooting of Wajed Ali Baig of Utica. In addition to the life
 sentence for the first-degree murder charge, Davis will serve two years
 in prison on the felony firearm charge.
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Several thousand demonstrators turned out for the rally against Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad across from the United Nations.
New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn helped kick off Monday's event, declaring: "We are all here today to send one clear, loud and united message that there is no place for hate and terror in this world, but there will always be a place for the great State of Israel."
The rally at the Dag Hammarskjöld Plaza, which started at noon, is in conjunction with the start of the U.N. General Assembly. It was organized by an ad hoc coalition that included the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, the Jewish Community Relations Council of New York, United Jewish Communities, UJA-Federation of New York and the Jewish Council for Public Affairs.
Among the dignitaries who spoke were Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Richard Holbrooke and several New York politicians.
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Former Israeli Finance Minister Abraham Hirchson will likely be tried for fraud and embezzlement. Attorney General Menachem Mazuz announced Monday he would order the prosecution of Hirchson, who stepped down in April after felony allegations emerged against him.
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Ehud Olmert faces a police probe over suspected impropriety in a real estate deal.
Israeli Attorney General Menachem Mazuz on Monday ordered an investigation into the prime minister's purchase of a house in Jerusalem after a state audit suggested the price was unreasonably low. That raised suspicion that Olmert was put in a position of returning favors to the property's former owner.
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MOUNT CLEMENS -- The man who fatally shot a 7-Eleven clerk during an  argument over the price of a convenience store taco was sentenced today  by Macomb Circuit Court Judge Mary Chrzanowski to spend the rest of his  life in prison.  A jury found Kenyatta Davis of Shelby Township guilty last month on  first-degree murder and felony firearm charges for the murder in the Aug.  24, 2006, shooting of Wajed Ali Baig of Utica. In addition to the life  sentence for the first-degree murder charge, Davis will serve two years  in prison on the felony firearm charge.  Baig, a 47-year-old Pakistani immigrant, had worked as a civil engineer  in his home country. Baig was working at 7-Eleven and at Kohl's store  to support his wife and three sons.
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 Lost boy
The hate that was in Stephen Long's heart was etched in black ink on his white skin. The tattoos branding his skin provided a visible and constant reminder to all who saw him of his white supremacist beliefs. As a family member put it, Stephen was a walking racist billboard.
Before the 22-year-old could make the decision for himself about which path to choose, the choice was made for him by a killer wielding a baseball bat.
Christopher Broughton, of Hamilton, is currently working his way through the court system, charged with Stephen's murder.
But the murder of the young Ottawa man on April 16, 2006 as he slept peacefully camped out on the floor of a buddy's Collingwood house after a night of raucous, beer-fuelled partying.

Rebellion set in around age 16, when Stephen opted to move out of his dad's and stepmother's house and went to live with a friend's family. He also cut back on the time he spent at school, eventually dropping out altogether.
Stephen moved in and out of apartments with friends, but eventually came to rest at the home of his paternal grandmother, to whom he had grown close after his parents had split up.
With the clear vision of hindsight, Murray notes an incident that had a significant impact on his son's views of other races.
His teenaged son had been the victim of a violent swarming by a group of black men. Badly beaten during the encounter, Stephen later relayed to his father that he had felt he was going to be killed.
It proved to be an incident that stuck with the young man.
At some point in Stephen's life, his dad believes he was recruited by White activists who fanned the fires of Stephen's simmering hate.
Stephen found his new voice among his white-centric friends and on the U.S.-based white pride website Stormfront, where he logged postings under the moniker "Longer."
'FALLEN BROTHER'
In the days after his murder, he was heralded as a "warrior" and "fallen brother" by Stormfront users. "He had such good hopes for the future and was a very dedicated White Nationalist," Stormtrooper 777 wrote.
In a book of condolence at Long's funeral, prayers for the family were punctuated by comments of "See you in Valhalla brother."
On the neo-Nazi forum Stormfront, Long wrote about organizing a meeting of white nationalists in Ottawa and white power rock bands. While many of his postings are innocent in nature, some of his online comments clearly demonstrated his racist beliefs, such as the one he posted on November 2005.
"Every black that their tone with me was wrong, every shove, every fight every Aryan beauty hypnotized and taken by them I will remember and hold it with all my hate I possibly have ... Politically incorrect?! yes and proud who would want to be correct with the governments allowing these broadcasts in favor of them?! and bring in more?! I the muds keep saying that our government hates them why do we allow them to keep coming? If the muds know it's for votes then write home and tell all your coconut head freinds "not to come its not worth it:"!? Damn them all I will never forget and never forgive, they're not going to neither should be EVER." (sic throughout)

This wasn't the Stephen his father knew. There were hints of his feelings, but for the most part the young man kept his racist ideology separate from his family life -- likely because he knew they would disapprove.

"The tragedy about racism is that if you become a racist, it's probably going to be a reinforcing thing," notes Murray. "People will start to resent you for what you stand for and that will further polarize you from people of other cultures."

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TT Says:
I am accused of misleading skinheads on Stormfront.  And seems to be calling the pot black.  I'm sure Storm front has much more influence with skinheads than I do.
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Racial hype has replaced all rational discussion. Moreover, the Jena episode has shown that two can play the racial hype game. Neo-Nazis have published the names and home addresses of all the young blacks involved in the school incident.
The slogan "No justice, no peace" has been used to justify settling legal issues in the streets, instead of in courts of law.
Neo-Nazis have now helped demonstrate what a dangerous slogan that is, since different people have opposite ideas of what "justice" is in a given situation.
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 Neo-Nazi presentation gets cancelled
Speaker and former Neo- Nazi, Thomas "TJ" Leydon   Missouri Western was forced to cancel the lecture of a former neo-Nazi speaker that was scheduled for earlier this month due to security conflicts.
Because Leydon is currently the only former Skinhead working against the groups he once represented, he exposes himself to an element of danger.
Many white supremacy groups would prefer he did not have the opportunity to inform the same impressionable minds which they seek according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
In addition to threats and harassment, online white supremacy groups who consider Leyden a traitor have gone so far as to issue a standing "kill on sight" directive to eliminate him.
To minimize the threat, CampuSpeak the Colorado based education agency which manages Leydon, stipulated in his contract that he required armed security guards.
Missouri Western's own security staff is not armed with guns, but carries pepper spray and expandable batons, forcing event organizers to look elsewhere for armed security.
Despite contacting local law enforcement agencies in an effort to contract off duty police officers, they were unable to secure armed officers.
Jonathan Kelley, Director of Public Safety explained, "It was my understanding that providing personal body guard protection for individual citizens was not something routinely provided by local law enforcement."
With no other recourse, Missouri Western officials were forced to cancel the event despite Mr. Leydon's offer to appear without the benefit of armed security.
A new contract is currently in the works to secure a future lecture by Leydon in early November.

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Tom Metzger Says:
September 26th, 2007 at 4:07 am
Dont let T.J get you to excited with his horror stories. He was a very small timer among the skin heads.He had no influence in the more professional circles. He has been out of touch with new material for years. He is on the payrole now and must deliver. So his nose grows like Pinocchios everytime he speaks. ===========================================
 Dear Mr. Metzger,
 The new PBS documentary about WWII called "the war' by Director Ken Burns is airing now.
 I can't bring myself to watch even a single minute of it. Ken burns is a very good director and is very good at making compelling documentary films but this time it is just too much.
 Anyone over say 35 or 40 who thinks this country is better now than when they were a kid is insane. It has been a steady deterioration since my earliest memories as a child.
 More civil?
More polite?
Less crime, especially against children?
Better standard of living?
The environment?
Prospects for a sustainable future for us and our children?
 I could go on and on>
 We are in a disaster.
 My Father died this past April 24 leaving my Mother alone and heart broken after 63 years of Marriage. He fought the Japanese on Guadalcanal . He was one of "the greatest generation".
 And it was he and all the other millions and millions of men like him who went to war who came back home and ALLOWED the country to rot from the inside out. My Father never had a clue about what was happening around us as I went to high school in the sixties and had to fight for my life every single day against black kids who hated me and wanted to kill me. He never had a clue as to how unjustified and wrong Vietnam was; he never had a clue about how this country was being over whelmed with illegal aliens. He and his generation went to war and killed millions of people and used nuclear weapons on innocent civilians!
 But they never lifted a FINGER to save their own country from ruin and they are leaving their own grand children to face a living hell future that they created themselves with their own ignorance.
 Go figure.
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Tom,
I also am a follower of the peak oil theory but this does give contrary info. I've always thought that the idea that the oil buried so deep underground, was from living sources, was pretty far out. I'd be interested in your thoughts on what this article says. This is not my first time running into these ideas. If peak oil is not a firm, probable theory, and you and I may not be able to establish that, one way or the other, then it is perilous to lean to far on it in future scenarios that impact our world view. Food for thought.
Confessions Of An
'Ex' Peak Oil believer
By F. William Engdahl
The good news is that panic scenarios about the world running out of oil anytime soon are wrong. The bad news is that the price of oil is going to continue to rise. Peak Oil is not our problem. Politics is. Big Oil wants to sustain high oil prices. Dick Cheney and friends are all too willing to assist.  
 Note! The rest of this argument is available on the Rense website.
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TT says:
Even if this were true.  We are using two barrels of oil for everyone we pump.  The Saudis and others are so greedy they pump at max capacity still their source is dwindling each year./ Its that way in almost all oil fields.
Cheap oil has been a direct cause of overpopulation.  China, India and other Third World countries are using more and more oil each year.  So even without Peak oil there is big trouble just down the road.  Even if this theory that doesn't seem to have much support that Rense talks about is true it will still only make things worse as far as world population goes.  Oh yes don't forget the water.  World usable water is dropping like a rock.  Much of the Third World drinks very contaminated water.  Which could be good if they resulted in epidemics that would cut the population.  But unfortunately with world travel the way it is these epidemics would soon reach North America.
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 Hangman's Noose
You don't have to be an executioner to appreciate this noose.  Nor do you have to have the traditional eight coils.  This is actually a very practical, strong, and secure noose, but may become difficult to untie if pulled hard.

To make it, start with a "N"-shape of rope, with plenty of extra rope off the bottom of the "N" (nevermind the direction of the "N").  Keep wrapping tight coils spiraling up the outside until you're satisfied and tuck the end of the rope through the top eye.  Pull down the bottom eye to form the loop and trap the tucked end of rope.

This knot bears some resemblance to the Uni-Knot commonly used in monofilament line by anglers.

If you ever came upon desperate times in the woods and needed to snare some game but only had rope and no snare wire, you might consider using the sturdy Hangman's Noose.  Don't use the noose itself, but rather run the standing part of the rope through the noose to form a running loop.  You can adjust the size of the noose perfectly to make sure your running loop isn't too stiff or too sloppy.  Use light grasses to tie the loop to bushes or twigs to keep the snare in place.

The Hangman's Noose can also be used as a means to put extra mass at the end of a rope to aid in throwing a line.  Of course, the loop can be made very small for such a purpose.  When you want to untie it, just pull the loop all the way through and the knot will disappear.
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Science Daily — As we age, our brains slowly shrink in volume and weight. This includes significant atrophy within the frontal lobes, the seat of executive functioning. Executive functions include planning, controlling, and inhibiting thought and behavior. In the aging population, an inability to inhibit unwanted thoughts and behavior causes several social behaviors and cognitions to go awry.
Clinical study proves one vitamin slows age-related memory decline.
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In a study appearing in the October issue of Current Directions in Psychological Science, University of Queensland psychologist, Bill von Hippel, reports that decreased inhibitory ability in late adulthood can lead to unintended prejudice, social inappropriateness, depression, and gambling problems.

Regarding prejudice, von Hippel and colleagues found that older white adults showed greater stereotyping toward African Americans than younger white adults did, despite being more motivated to control their prejudices. Von Hippel suggests that "because prejudice toward African Americans conflicts with prevailing egalitarian beliefs, older adults attempt to inhibit their racist feelings, but fail."
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TT says:
could it be that older people have a lot more experience with blacks, mestizos and others?  Don't piss down my leg sonny and tell me it's the dew!
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Say what?
 Those of us who are now part of the ever increasing mix of transracial families, and most especially those of us who are white adoptive parents of black children, and black sons, need to be paying very close attention to what is transpiring in Jena, Louisiana. Why? Because but for time and space this could be YOUR child, your black son. If we as white parents do not fully open our eyes to the racial inequities in our country, things will never progress further toward change. Eventually OUR sons (and daughters) will be the victims of the closed eyes of a white world who believes that race is no longer an issue, and if we just stop looking at disparities in that context, it will all just go away.
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 Neo-Nazi Attacks on the Rise in Ecuador    
As strange as it might seem there are many neo-nazi groups that operate throughout South America. These groups range from white power skinheads to 3rd positionist groups (who use leftist rhetoric to push fascist agendas), as well as ultra right wing youth groups. Nazi Skinheads have been responsible for attacks and even the killings of punks, left wing activists, antifascists, and homosexuals in Argentina, Chile, Brazil, and Ecuador.
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 TM,
 With friends like you, the North doesn't need enemies. You tell everybody that the federal soldiers died for Negroes. Dr Pierce was right. You're a dirty bolshevik race mixer. You used to be a Maverick. What happened to you? You might as well move to Washington D.C.

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TT says:
This one's a bit hard to understand Other than the Northern robber barons then who did they die for? I don't know whether I told people but my ancestors fought in the American Revolution.  I had relatives that fought on both sides of the Civil War.  And my five daughters are all eligible to be members of the daughters of the American revolution.
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TT,
 I can't count how many race-conscious whites I've met over the years who think many whites in law enforcement are secret supporters and/or allies of ours...WRONG!
 We must keep in mind that the cops are System Enforcers. If a mandate were handed down by our bastard Iron Heel leaders tomorrow ordering the cops to immediately start killing known white racialists in America, you can bet that the overwhelming majority of white policemen wouldn't even blink at offing as many of us as possible.
 This article should serve as a wake-up call or a reminder that cops are, at best, a necessary evil in our society who must always be viewed with a strong distrust by the general populace.
 Most white cops are not and never will be our friends. Their loyalty is to the System that signs their paychecks.
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TT says:
And don't forget one of the big problems with cops is their macho self-image.  Many also have this idea that only they are  in control.  And everybody else should just sit down and shut up. There once was peace officers whose duty for the most part was just to keep the peace.  But now they are law enforcement officers and state police.   Even the titles give them away.  At one time I had a close friend who was on the California Highway patrol.  His attitude was.  Every body else obey the law.  I am above it.  Our friendship finally broke down because of that attitude.  He used to brag about all the crap he had pulled.
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Rebellion to the United States Government is good:
 Four years of invasion and 12 years of military occupation against the South. 16 years of the horrors and ravages of war thrown against the Sister States for the purpose of subjugating sovenreign states to the will of Northern tyranny. Military despotism carried out by deluded masses controlled by a central government. Northern sympathy my ass!
 It is good that you hate the Southern nation. And it is good that you carry the torch of Lincoln. Now go into one of your infantile diatribes and tell us how righteous marauding murdering federal agents were in the 1860s. Turn everything inside-out like a Jew.
 You've gone from a privateer to a knee-bender of the black republicans of Lincoln's party.
 accomplishments of the war:
 a) secured federal supremacy
 b) turned loose Negroes unrestrained on the people of the states
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TT says:
I'm getting quite a few of these type of e-mails that don't make any sense to me.  I don't know what they're reading or how they are interpreting it.  There seems to be a difference in ideology.  In fact a big difference between those who are comfortable being called white supremacists and those that prefer white separatism.  It appears most white supremacist are a little like the corporate supremacists are today.  They don't have a big problem with Negroes existing in their territory as long as the Negroes are either physical slaves or economic slaves.  And at the same time the white supremacist must be in total  control  or think he is on top.

 I'm a white separatist I believe in total absolute territorial separation.  I want nothing to do with segregation.  I want nothing to do with human slavery or economic slavery.  A thought about this quite a bit and I see this is our problem.  It would appear there is a higher percentage of white supremacists living in the South.  Or at least they fondly hearken back to the master in the slave period.  While the majority of white separatists seem to be in the North and the West.  They generally want as little contact with blacks and other non-whites as possible.  They are not on a tirade to kill all the blacks or hang a bunch of them.  But they do want them out or away someplace.  Whatever they accomplish in that separated territory is up to them.

I have personally rebelled against the United States government as much as anyone could without going directly to prison.  Some of these e-mails are probably even sent by our opposition trying to fuel some kind of feud.  There's not enough of us all together to have the time to feud much or a territory to feud in.  It also costs money and time to feud.  Most of what I hear coming back at me seems to be generated from these counterproductive forums.  We're like old ladies over the back fence or on the partyline telephones where old women used to waste away their time gossiping.  The feds love forums. In fact if I were the JOOOOOS or the feds I would finance stormfront totally and other forums. Dumbbells think by using clever e-mail titles they escape being identified.  They can gossip all day and rumor all night and think the feds don't know who they are. I hide in plain sight and always use my real name.
Look at it this way.If your phone rang and you picked it up.  And the voice at the other end wanted to asking questions or talk about much of anything but would not give his or her real name .Would you be so stupid as to keep one giving out information?  Good luck.
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CONFESSION OF A WHITE RACIST
 
 I AM A WHITE RACIST !!!! WHY ??? I HAVE TRAVELED FROM
 CASA BLANCA, MOROCCO TO PRETORIA, SO. AFRICA, NASSAU
 BAHAMAS, HAITI AND JAMAICA. (NOT TO MENTION LIVING IN
 MIAMI, FLORIDA WITH THE CUBAN HALF-BREEDS).
                1) THE WHITE RACE IS A DYING ONE.....SINCE 1930 WE HAVE
                    HAD A ZERO GROWTH RATE FALLING FROM 33% TO 9.5%.
                    PROGNOSIS: TERMINAL AND IMMEDIATE ERADICATION.
                2) THE CONSTITUTION  STATES THE NEGROID TO BE 3/5 OF A
                    PERSON. SINCE BROWN vs BOARD OF EDUCATION TRYING
                    TO MAKE THEM WHOLE, SPENDING BILLIONS IN THE PAST
                    53 YEARS, RESULTING IN THE TOTAL AND COMPLETE
                    DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA'S EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.
                3) THE NEGROID REPRESENTS 70% OF OUR PRISON
                    POPULATION, 50% OF HIGH SCHOOL DROP-OUTS, 8 TIMES
                   THE AIDS RATE AND MULTIPYING LIKE RUN-AWAY RATS.
                4) AFRICA IS THE MOST VILE AND CORRUPT CONTINENT ON
                    THE FACE OF MOTHER'S EARTH: GOVERNMENTS LASTING
                    SIX MONTHS ON AVERAGE, SQUANDERING BILLIONS OF
                    DOLLARS OF RELIEF AID FROM WHITE CONTROLLED
                   COUNTRIES, HAVING SEX WITH THE RHESUS MONKEY AND
                   CREATING AN EPIDEMIC WORLD-WIDE CALLED AIDS.(4,000
                   DIE DAILY IN AFRICA - 20 MILLION + TO DATE.                       
                  IF I TOLD ALL IT WOULD BE LONGER THAN TOLSTOY'S "WAR
                  AND PEACE".....
 
                 QUESTION:  FOR ALL OF YOU WHO ARE RACISTS AND DON'T
                 KNOW WHY.....WANT TO BE AND NEED THE THE TRUTH AND
                 ARE NOT BUT SHOULD BE .....PLEASE ......PLEASE READ
                                           ( jessiejackson.com)
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The Navy will spend as much as $600,000 to modify a 40-year-old barracks complex that resembles a swastika from the air, a gaffe that went largely unnoticed before satellite images became easily accessible on the Internet.

The Navy said officials noted the buildings' shape after the groundbreaking in 1967 but decided against changing it at the time because it wasn't obvious from the ground. Aerial photos made available on Google Earth in recent years have since revealed the buildings' shape to a wide audience.
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TT says:
Oh my God run for the Hills the Nazi buildings are coming. It was supposed to be in the shape of a hammer and sickle. Who screwed up?
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CHICAGO, Sept. 21 -- The money spent on one day of the Iraq war could buy homes for almost 6,500 families or health care for 423,529 children, or could outfit 1.27 million homes with renewable electricity, according to the American Friends Service Committee, which displayed those statistics on large banners in cities nationwide Thursday and Friday.
The war is costing $720 million a day or $500,000 a minute, according to the group's analysis of the work of Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph E. Stiglitz and Harvard public finance lecturer Linda J. Bilmes.
The estimates made by the group, which opposes the conflict, include not only the immediate costs of war but also ongoing factors such as long-term health care for veterans, interest on debt and replacement of military hardware.
"The wounded are coming home, and many of them have severe brain and spinal injuries, which will require round-the-clock care for the rest of their lives," said Michael McConnell, Great Lakes regional director of the AFSC, a peace group affiliated with the Quaker church.
The $720 million figure breaks down into $280 million a day from Iraq war supplementary funding bills passed by Congress, plus $440 million daily in incurred, but unpaid, long-term costs.
But some supporters of the Bush administration's policy in Iraq say that even if the war is costly, that fact is essentially immaterial.
"Either you think the war in Iraq supports America's national security, or not," said Frederick W. Kagan, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute. "If you think national security won't be harmed by withdrawing from Iraq, of course you would want to see that money spent elsewhere. I myself think that belief, on a certain level, is absurd, so the question of focusing on how much money we are spending there is irrelevant."
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Did you hear what Bill Oreilly said about the jigg run restaurant in Harlem that he attended?
He said, "It was a nice dining experience. I was surprised. There wasn't anyone in there
saying, 'Motherfucker, bring me more iced tea'."  LOL!!! :)

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TT says:
even though I can't stand O'Reilly. That is funny.
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Southern white exceptionalism is about race, much more than it is about moral values, religion, support for the military or other explanations sometimes offered. There's a large statistical literature on the subject, whose conclusion is summed up by the political scientist Thomas F. Schaller in his book "Whistling Past Dixie": "Despite the best efforts of Republican spinmeisters to depict American conservatism as a nonracial phenomenon, the partisan impact of racial attitudes in the South is stronger today than in the past."
And the cynicism of the "Southern strategy" introduced by Richard Nixon, which delivered decades of political victories to Republicans, is now starting to look like a trap for the G.O.P.

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TT says:
I would enjoy nothing better than wiping out  the Republican Party.
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Tom,
Thanks for the response on Peak Oil. It's always good to get your perspective on things and I agree that whether we run out of oil, or not, overpopulation is the big issue. Whether it is oil, water, food or land, we are heading down that path of collapse.
I wanted to say something about the North-South thing, since everyone else is chiming in. I've lived in the South all my life. I was raised in the years between segregation and desegregation. I have seen a lot of changes in my life. Some of it very hard to stomach. I went to a segregated private school, because the blacks flooded our public schools. We were not rich. We were working class. My Dad managed to make the money to send us, as did many working class parents, to keep their children out of school with blacks. Anyway, our mascot was a rebel. Our school emblem was a Confederate flag. The school was named, as most were, after a Confederate general. So I've been there. I was raised in the atmosphere of the South. My ancestors fought for the South and some owned slaves. Our family was not however, in the upper class of the South. As I have grown older, I have seen what the South really was. It was a closed society with a caste system. There were rungs on the ladder with blacks at the bottom. Working class whites were in the middle somewhere, depending on your name and location but is clear......to the upper class white families, we working class whites were just a step above the niggers......no two ways about it. Matter of fact, I think thats one reason most working class whites got so bent out of shape during desegregation, they lost their place. No matter what a white man did in the south, he was still better than a nigger BUT, if you weren''t upper class, it just wasn't your town. It belonged to the rich white folks in the big houses. It's much the same today for the upper class, except now that upper class is color blind in public. Where I'm from, hatred of Yankee's was long lived and well deserved, as Sherman burned the whole town I grew up in, save a building or two. He put almost everyone in the poor house around here for a century. That does not however, change the fact that the people who started that war on the Southern side were rich whites, who by and large, looked down on people like you and I and I'm sure most everyone of your listeners. So I say to my southern brethren, to love the South, love its land and it's history. Love your ancestors who are buried in it's soil, honor the fine men who died to defend it but don't get confused about your place down here, then or now. To the upper crust, we were and remain, all just niggers, white or black.

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TT says :
Well that's one of the most honest assessments I've had in quite a while from an individual Southerner.  This person has said it better than I can.
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Hi TPT...wanted to say an excellent show today...great explanation on not only differences between white separatism/supremacy, but a deeper understanding on where you are coming from and the philosophy's you hold.
I think that hate is a useful tool, but a tool like fire, can be a 'dangerous master and a fearful servant'...
I have similar views on people of color. And actually, there is more hate in my heart for traitors and white Christian Zionists and the people on top oppressing the people on the bottom than I have for the nigger on the street who really hasn't done much to me but I'd rather live separately from...how much power does the nigger on the street have on me much less the ability to change things and influence people? Not much...like you said earlier, it's the people who sign the checks that deserve the perfect hatred for the mess we are in....
As usually, your a step ahead of everybody else TPT...

P.S. I think Timothy McVeigh was about 30 years ahead of his time...the country wasn't ready for such revolutionary activity yet, but mark my words, sooner or later, he will be hailed as a martyr and there will be a national holiday to commemorate his brave first step of how to change things when voting and protesting no longer change a criminal government.